Third Act with Liz Tinkham

The DEI Expert with Lori Trawinski

Lori Trawinski talks to Liz about how her background in economics and stand-up comedy (!) led her to AARP’s Public Policy Institute. Today, she offers her expert advice on what corporations and employees can do to combat ageism in the workplace.

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Third Act Podcast

Your first act is school, your second act is work, but have you thought about what you’re going to do in your third act? Join host Liz Tinkham, a former Accenture Senior Managing Director, as she talks to guests who are happily “pretired” – enjoying their time, treasure, and talent to pursue their purpose and passion in the third act of their life.

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The DEI Expert with Lori Trawinski

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How does a Ph.D. in Economics and standup comic become one of the leading thought leaders on Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion with a focus on ageism? On today’s episode, Liz talks with Lori Trawinksi, the DEI Expert, to hear how she made it happen.

After getting booted out of drama while in college, Lori was told to do something technical, so indeed she did, getting a Ph.D. in Economics. But she always had the itch to perform, so mid-career she went back to performing—becoming a standup comic in LA for 6 years. The Great Recession of 2008-2010 pushed her back to a higher paying job, and after much searching, she landed in finance at AARP’s Public Policy Institute. As part of that work, she started researching and writing about the issues of unemployment in older workers.

Today, she continues in this role as well as teaches a class on DEI at NYU. Listen to today’s show as Lori offers advice on what corporations and employees can do to combat ageism in the workplace.

2:54 Rejection from drama school
5:21 Becoming a stand-up comic
9:34 The Great Recession
13:15 The Future of Work at 50+
17:08 Changing the hiring process
18:47 The Employer Pledge Program
20:50 Age overlooked in DEI
23:47 Teaching at NYU
26:34 Becoming a park ranger

You can connect with Lori Trawinski on LinkedIn. Learn more about AARP’s Living Learning and Earning Longer program here. And finally, if you’re interested in becoming a National Park Service ranger, learn more here.

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