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The DEI Data Scientist with Paolo Gaudiano

Today Liz talks with data scientist, Paolo Gaudiano. Paolo’s life work is using simulation modeling to prove how Inclusion is the biggest factor to improving DEI outcomes.  Paolo talks about how working with Baltimore inner city kids inspired his work and why he’s now combining academia, for profit and nonprofit entities to advance his Inclusion mission.

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The DEI Data Scientist with Paolo Gaudiano

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Today Liz talks with Paolo Gaudiano – The DEI Data Scientist. How does a guy who studied Aerospace Engineering connect the dots to lead the field of simulation modeling to determine Inclusion? As a college student, Paolo Gaudiano took a class on the cognitive functions of the brain which led to a lifelong academic and professional interest in neural networks, AI and statistical modeling. While working for Icosystems doing simulation modeling, Paolo had the opportunity to look at why inner city kids in Baltimore dropped out of high school. The experience of working with these kids made Paolo realize how privileged he was as a white, cisgender male. He subsequently devoted his life’s work to DEI, specifically looking at the issues of inclusion, which he believes most companies don’t understand. Today he combines academic research, with both a nonprofit and for profit company to advance the mission of improving DEI in companies.

2:26 Having three jobs at the same time
4:47 The sort-of Aerospace Engineer
7:18 The early entrepreneur
9:05 Building chatbots
11:46 The kids in Baltimore
13:30 The correlation of data analytics and DEI
16:25 The lightbulb going off on simulations
17:41 Using simulations to show why more men get promoted than women
20:25 Diversity = static count
21:50 Behaviors that influence Inclusion
25:47 Are things getting better?
28:39 Liz asks again – how do you do three jobs at once?
36:54 What’s next?
42:05 “Cursed with ideas”

You can find more information about Paolo Gaudiano here. You can find his writing at Forbes here. Learn more about Aleria here.

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